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PostSubject: PHILIPPINES CURRENCY?   PHILIPPINES CURRENCY? EmptySun Aug 09, 2009 5:57 am

What is the coin,money or currency used in the island before the spanish came?


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PostSubject: Re: PHILIPPINES CURRENCY?   PHILIPPINES CURRENCY? EmptySun Aug 09, 2009 9:03 am

Piloncitos is the first form of money to be used before the Spanish came in the island. Also, gold hallow ring and some crude gold necklace were also used as money.
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cowries has also been used, and jades also
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PostSubject: Re: PHILIPPINES CURRENCY?   PHILIPPINES CURRENCY? EmptyMon Aug 10, 2009 12:49 am

Thank you for the info.

Any website that readers can access about the history of Philippine coin,pre spanish?
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try the philippine money blogspot.com
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You can also try this site which is more informative:
http://www.philippinephilatelist.net/mint/survey11.html

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PostSubject: Re: PHILIPPINES CURRENCY?   PHILIPPINES CURRENCY? EmptyTue Aug 11, 2009 4:22 am

Thank you very much for the info.

http://philmoney.blogspot.com/2008/01/evolution-of-philippine-currency.html

800-1521 thats quite long for a coin to be used in circulation.

Other info. in the web that that piloncitos is used from 1200-1521.

Good to be used in dating in archeological site in philippines,when they found the coin on that site community exist there, since that the coin is inscribe, the power or authority exist in much more wider area or more standard unlike when the time they are using other gold item for barter just a comment.

Its all up to the expert in the philippines to know where are those ancient mints and there source and who made them.

If other know they can post if they like.
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just posting.

http://www.coincoin.com/seHS.htm
http://info.bpiexpressonline.com/bpiprod/BPIAbout.nsf/150th+Anniversary/Trivia+on+Philippine+Banking?OpenDocument#anchor11
http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2705571

http://books.google.com/books?id=lGwKAQAAIAAJ&q=piloncitos&dq=piloncitos
http://books.google.com/books?id=nJuz-LwZcJUC&pg=RA3-PT286&dq=piloncitos#v=onepage&q=piloncitos&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=mpik3raHihIC&pg=PA23&dq=piloncitos#v=onepage&q=piloncitos&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=HPF6AAAAMAAJ&q=piloncitos&dq=piloncitos
http://books.google.com/books?id=Qs1q9VEoEkoC&pg=PA290&dq=piloncitos#v=onepage&q=piloncitos&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=QKgraWbb7yoC&pg=PA144&dq=piloncitos#v=onepage&q=piloncitos&f=false
http://coin.filipinonumismatist.com/2009/04/pre-hispanic-coinage-barter-ring-shells.html
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http://www.philippinephilatelist.net/mint/survey1.html

http://www.philippinephilatelist.net/mint/survey2.html

There is a gap of coinage in there and there is clipping,they are wieghing something in that time for trade either gold and coinage itself silver,there is a tread somewhere,I will try to find it the meaning or origin of the world sterling,more popular now as sterling silver,just to look for the history of weighing scale,they are trading much more precious that gold and silver and needed a more pricise scale to do that,just an opinion.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mano

I dont know the origin of the word mano like what the coin symbol d means ma meaning first nor the history of mano a filipino traits.
http://books.google.ie/books?id=3PtgPPPpZQ4C&q=sunka+games&dq=sunka+games
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Manila_Mint_Museum,_PI_Piloncitos.jpg
I dont know the back of piloncitos or other inscribe letter found all over the south east asia.
Bot on the picture of the mint museum there is a circle maybe representing something I dont know what cirle represents but there is a program I think in BBC that the symbol zero 0 is an imprint if you take some the program is about something of evulotion of number and also this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samekh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sans-serif
http://books.google.com/books?id=3PtgPPPpZQ4C&q=sunka+games+achilles&dq=sunka+games+achilles&lr=
Seen some site that this game is popular fron africa to guam I dont know the origin nor the history of this game.
If it is true that they are using gems maybe piloncitos for sunka zero as point of origin ma meaning first stone or mano
since seen that it is seven hole first line 1 to 7 total 28 days just wonder if it will rotate 13 times as for one year used in ancient times or every 3 or 4 monts like planting of rice just posting like a sunka hopping to one hole to another from africa to guam.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mem

Also this like D but since that there is a serif in both ends I dont know.
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just posting.
http://www.mazalien.com/voyages-of-discovery-circumnavigation-of-magellan.html
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PostSubject: Re: PHILIPPINES CURRENCY?   PHILIPPINES CURRENCY? EmptyFri Aug 14, 2009 5:49 pm

There are also coins rarely mentioned in the history books like the seping copper coins of the ifugao's and bontocs which are imitations of spanish reales and trade dollars, and of course the very rare Moslem or Sulu coins of the Sultanate of Sulu.

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Thanks FN.

Nice to see the picture of those piloncitos they as dimuinitive the skills and craftmanship to make and inscribe a coin is good.

Viking are also good in making good thin silver coin that there sword is a superb craftsmanship, thats what I seen on the web.

In the past they used coin as a weight I think,either it is a currency or commodity or both.

http://www.globalpinoy.com/ch/ch_category.php?category=pinoygames&name=Sungka&table=ch_pinoygames&startpage=16&endpage=30
http://wikimanqala.org/wiki/Sungka
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congkak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowrie
Maybe this reason.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_race
for future ref.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_language#In_religion_and_mythology
maybe this one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apo
ALPHA AND OMEGA.
just like in ilocano region Apo.
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PostSubject: Re: PHILIPPINES CURRENCY?   PHILIPPINES CURRENCY? EmptyMon Aug 17, 2009 1:40 am

just posting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerah
Almost same thing D means ma in tagalog and ma ah in hebrew.

just like AMA if we pu A in ma represinting the serif in piloncitos or in hebrew or aramaic an alephhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph#Origin then block letters of hebrew http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_alphabet#Description combination in a way same as old tagalog Alphabeto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Baybayin_alpha.jpg almost same with D block letter and an aleph on top but the serif on the botton I dont know .

http://opinion.inquirer.net/10991/%E2%80%98piloncitos%E2%80%99-and-the-%E2%80%98philippine-golden-age%E2%80%99


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For a complete History of Philippine Coins check out my webpage. Don't forget to sign the guestbook.
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The name of Lapu-Lapu is Mapulaako in chinese mapulaacu in english means "Im red".

There is a fish called lapu lapu.

I will just call Lapu-Lapu Mapulaako so that its different from a fish name.
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Just a litte within range to be brown.
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Very nice site.

And the numismatic writer and all the writer about Philippines history and languages.

Ma meaning first. in baybayin language in visaya dialect baybay as far as I know means seashore or shoreline.

Baybayin in some webpage means to spell, tagalog translated to english to trek,to trace,just like baybayin ang dalampasigan,to trek,stroll along the coastline.

Since its coast line as other Philippines island there is trade when there is trade there is currency,ma meaning first maybe a standard currency starter for the coastline or trading ports,hot spot will be all island with trading ports pre-spanish .
Currency inland or in the center like mountain province I dont know.
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Ive learned a lot in this program,there show have a link in this page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Team

They are rolling all in one dig the curator,document keeper of one town,the expert numismatic,all the expert from pot to bricks to all artifacts you can mention.

From geophysics to land radar to all form of archeology,to literary piece.

There are aslo metal detector hobbyist how many depending on there club.

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Just posting.

http://www.anythinganywhere.com/info/a2z/azphil.htm

http://www.bantayan.de/vorspanien/vorspanien.htm
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Just browse from other member of other forum.

Thanks for his output gyx.

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Just posting.

This is very far.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8406506.stm

First migration,to first settlement so on...?
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